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February 26, 2008

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Bill Bardelmeier

I very recently sent a message to Chris Hartley suggesting there is not enough effort put into disseminating good tech info and wondering if we shouldn't pull a small group into a monthly lunch together.

I had in mind persons like Erik Cottell and perhaps Michael Oakes.

Your suggestion is much broader and probably better. I'll be thinking on it
and will revert

Etoile Pinder

great ideas, and am thrilled to see that the initial move has been made.

Obviously I am more than willing to highlight any issues / speakers who might come on Dialogue.

(Unfortunately the PLP convention took over the time slots that was to be the Freedom:2030 shows, so they will now be playing over the next several weeks.)

I had already talked to Ginny about having her come on with a couple of people (the green bag people etc) to do a show about the basics of reduce, reuse, recylce and what people can do here.

If the website / blog are together within the next month or so, then we can flash that up every so often during the show to raise a little more awareness in the short-term.

Keith Bishop

I am in agreement and willing to support when able.

Dave Ralph

Do existing organizations ever get together in Nassau to discuss common goals?

This would include, BEST, Re-earth, the Nature Conservancy, BNT, Friends of the Environment, BREEF, Save the Bahamas Association, and whatever else there is out there.

John Hedden suggested to me that the College of the Bahamas be invited to chair a gathering. There is strength in numbers and most of these groups have a common thread.

Your suggestion for a forum echoes this same thought and would complement the general concept I proposed to John.

Your concept and mine are essentially the same. Even an alliance or coalition of interested groups can have committees with specific interests but still be united.

Graham Seiner

I appreciate your initiative in keeping this going. I've hosted blogs before and agree that Typepad could work, and we could even host something on our site if there's enough interest in a dedicated site.

I think the meetings would also be a great way to put the issues into the public arena - we'd be happy to speak and could probably bring in other industry experts.

So, please count us in for supporting this effort, and let me know how we can help.

Cape Systems Ltd

Ginny Mckinney

Great idea. From a conversation I had today with Shelley Cant at the BNT I realised we should do a poll/referendum type thing on any and all the alternative technologies.

The more the general public endorses any of these initiatives the more the politicians can breathe easy about implementing them.

Tell me what I can do to help with the website. Or any of your suggestions.

Dick Coulson

Very interesting.

Mary Mintz

I am in Larry! I can find out about technology in the states.

I have seen the trash problem on Long Island where my husband has built a small cabin. We are very aware of the mounting problem of trash both in the US and in the Bahamas.

I would like to set up a model facility on Long Island to recycle plastic but we will have to get it off island once collected
and sorted and compressed.

The problem is going to be very big in the future and there will be not enough places to bury the trash and burning is very toxic.

Name

for Ginny McKinney:

Do something with a group,
but only when you have the numbers
to make it worthwhile.

The Point is a social platform for people
to solve problems they can’t solve alone.

Create a Campaign
Start an ultimatum, fundraiser, or social contract. Whatever the cause, use a campaign to bring it to the tipping point.

https://www.thepoint.com/

https://www.thepoint.com/doc/tour1

ginny mckinney

With the latest fire at the landfill we should be fast-tracking the Thermal Conversion proposal put forward by Bahamas Renewable Energy Resources (BRER) Company.

This technology involves a controlled heating of the municipal solid waste (or garbage) which takes place either in the absence of, or with minimal, oxygen. This in turn, through chemical reactions, creates gases that can be used to run turbines, which create electricity.

Additionally with the recaptured heat from the turbines we could create over a billion gallons of fresh water through reverse osmosis. It is a win-win situation and our garbage becomes another source of power, instead of sitting in the landfill creating huge amounts of methane, (a gas 20 times more damaging than CO2 in terms of global warming) and sporadically burning out of control whenever the circumstances are right.

Wonderfully, after this process takes place we are left only with an inert aggregate that can be used like sand for block making and road building. BRERCO will also reinvests ome of its profits back into the community, particularly for education, health, the police and the judicial system.

Recycling still takes place because metal and glass don't burn (garden waste does but shouldn't), which brings us to another point.

If we would just get on with separating our garden waste (instead of trying to get it picked up with our garbage by the DEHS or burning or dumping it) we could develop our composting even more, which would create good soil and avoid more methane production. Then we'd all have great gardens and even get our farming going on a realistic level.

AND If we would just collect and get our aluminum cans (juice,beer,soda) to a school or one of the depots, through Cans for Kids, we could be donating over half a million dollars to the youth of our country every year.(Finally a cause worth drinking for.)

Why do we only talk? Why don't we walk the walk. It is so simple to get started, but we are as paralyzed as the governments we elect to lead us and who we then complain about.

Saving the planet starts today in all the small ways - can collection, composting garden waste, changing your light bulbs from incandescent to florescent, driving with a friend, turning off the water while you brush your teeth, not flushing the toilet every time you pee!

And then there are the big ways: WASTE TO ENERGY, SOLAR ENERGY, WIND ENERGY, DEEP SEA COLD WATER THERMAL CONVERSION, TIDAL ENERGY, SUSTAINABLE ARCHITECTURE and so on.

Lets just get on with it!

Ginny

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